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Saah Charles N'Tow

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Blair Cameron and Pallavi Nuka
Name
Saah Charles N'Tow
Interviewee's Position
Former Director of PYPP and Scott Fellows
Language
English
Town/City
Monrovia
Country
Date of Interview
Reform Profile
No
Abstract

In this interview, Saah Charles N’Tow describes his roles as program director for the President’s Young Professional Program (PYPP) and John Snow Inc.’s (JSI) Scott Family Liberia Fellows Program. He talks about the process of designing a two-year fellowship program to bring young Liberians into key government ministries and agencies. He explains the creation of a selection criteria for fellows and the procedures that ensured the applicant-screening process remained transparent and fair. He discusses how the program held support sessions for applicants focused on resume writing and interview preparation. He addresses the program’s coordination practices with donors on budget support. He notes instances of resistance against the program from ministries and agencies and describes how the program responded to problems arising from the placement of fellows. He highlights the program’s administrative components that included mentoring, training, performance management, and program immersion. Finally, he describes the importance of sustainable funding procedures and talks about the likelihood of continued support for the program through future administrations

Profile

At the time of this interview, Saah Charles N’Tow was Liberia’s minister of youth and sports. He previously served as the program director of the President’s Young Professional Program (PYPP) and John Snow Inc.’s (JSI) Scott Family Liberia Fellows Program. He formerly served as a conflict sensitivity and training officer for the United Nations (UN) Liberia Peacebuilding Office. He obtained his bachelor’s degree in mathematics from the University of Liberia and his master’s degree in humanitarian assistance from Tufts University. 

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99 MB
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Saah Charles N'Tow Interview

Sigitas Siupsinskas

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10
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Yoni Friedman
Name
Sigitas Siupsinskas
Interviewee's Position
Vice Minister,
Interviewee's Organization
Minisrty of the Interior, Lithuania
Language
English
Town/City
Vilnius
Country
Date of Interview
Reform Profile
No
Abstract

In this interview, Sigitas Šiupšinskas discusses his work in public administration, regional policy and public service with the Lithuanian government. He discusses the VORT (Improvement of Performance-Based Management – from the Lithuanian Valdymo, orientuoto j rezultatus, tobulinimas) project and the Sunset Commission (The Commission for the Improvement of State Administration). He details the methods of the reforms, the gains achieved and the challenges faced. He talks about the effects the cultural environment of the Lithuanian government had on these reforms. He also talks about the successful efficiency gains in public administration and civil service reforms, and the implementations that led to those. Šiupšinskas discusses evaluative measures, methods of prioritization, and functional reviews.

Profile

At the time of this interview, Sigitas Šiupšinskas was vice minister in the Ministry of the Interior. He began his professional career in local administration, as deputy head of a neighborhood in the Vilnius District Municipality. Šiupšinskas then worked as adviser for municipal affairs in the Office of the Government. He then moved on to become director of the Association of Local Authorities in Lithuania. After this, he served as counselor the Lithuanian president on matters of public administration, regional policy and local self-government. He then moved to the Ministry of the Interior, where he first served as adviser to the minister before being appointed to his vice minister position. In the Ministry of the Interior, Šiupšinskas was responsible for public administration, regional policy and public service.

George Yambesi

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15
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Interviewers
Andrew Schalkwyk
Name
George Yambesi
Interviewee's Position
Permanent Secretary, Public Service Management
Interviewee's Organization
President's Office, Tanzania
Language
English
Nationality of Interviewee
Tanzanian
Town/City
Dar es Salaam
Date of Interview
Reform Profile
No
Abstract

George Yambesi draws upon his experience in the President’s Office for Public Service Management to trace the history of civil service reform in Tanzania.  He describes some of the challenges and goals involved in implementing reforms. The major theme of these reforms has been improving performance results and accountability.  Within this, there has been a focus on policy development, systems for appraising performance, improving human resource management, and leadership development.  Yambesi notes that one of the main motivations for reform was a public outcry for better services.  He goes into great detail about retrenchment and staff size, delineating specific goals set and the methods used in achieving those goals.  He also describes changes to pay policies, performance management systems, and in the promotion and recruitment systems at some length.  He speaks about the effect of the shift from secretive to open performance evaluations and stresses the importance of strategic thinking as the basis for annual plans and budgets.  He also discusses training programs and capacity building.  Finally, while he acknowledges the role played by international donors in establishing the reform agenda, he maintains that the reform agenda was driven largely by Tanzania itself.

Case Study:  Creating an Affordable Public Service: Tanzania, 1995-1998

Profile

At the time of this interview, George Yambesi was the permanent secretary in the President’s Office for Public Service Management in Tanzania.  His involvement with the reform program in Tanzania began in 1993.  He joined the program as a national expert on redeployment and subsequently worked as a national expert on capacity building for ministries, departments, agencies and other institutions.  He then served as director of policy development, responsible for coordinating the implementation of the Public Service Reform Program in Tanzania.  Immediately before being named permanent secretary, he served as deputy permanent secretary. 

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67 MB
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George Yambesi - Full Interview

Nasouh Marzouqa

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Deepa Iyer
Name
Nasouh Marzouqa
Interviewee's Position
Former Director
Interviewee's Organization
Civil Status and Passports Department
Language
Arabic with English translation
Nationality of Interviewee
Jordanian
Town/City
Amman
Country
Date of Interview
Reform Profile
No
Abstract

Nasouh Marzouqa discusses major reforms in Jordan’s Civil Status and Passports Department during his time as its director.  He describes how he improved the physical infrastructure of the department and streamlined the process for issuing passports.  Marzouqa also worked to institute a system of national identification numbers and began the process of computerizing the department.  He also discusses his efforts to motivate employees.    

Case Study:  Creating a 'Citizen Friendly' Department: Speeding Document Production in Jordan, 1991-1996

Profile

Nasouh Marzouqa served as head of Jordan’s Civil Status and Passports Department from 1991 to 1996, during which he oversaw massive reforms to the department. He previously served as director of the police departments in Irbid and Amman, and was director general of the Department of Public Security from 1985 to 1989.

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Nasouh Marzouqa - Full Interview

Robert Pakpahan

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Andrew Schalkwyk
Name
Robert Pakpahan
Interviewee's Position
Director of Business Processes Transformation
Interviewee's Organization
Directorate General of Taxes, Indonesia
Language
English
Nationality of Interviewee
Indonesian
Place (Building/Street)
Ministry of Finance
Town/City
Jakarta
Country
Date of Interview
Reform Profile
No
Abstract
Robert Pakpahan discusses administrative, bureaucratic and technological reforms in the Directorate General of Taxes in Indonesia since 2002. These reforms aimed to increase government revenue by eradicating corruption and expanding the tax net. He discusses the piecemeal modernization of the directorate general, including pay reform, improved monitoring of corruption through increased use of technology, the establishment of standard operating procedures, careful selection of employees, and standard mechanisms for promotions. Pakpahan also discusses obstacles including the maintenance of a current and accurate taxpayer database, bureaucratic resistance, lack of freedom in hiring decisions, and leadership.
 
Profile
At the time of this interview, Robert Pakpahan, who holds a doctoral degree, was the director of business processes transformation at the Directorate General of Taxes in Indonesia. He worked in this capacity since 2006 to improve Indonesia's tax collection mechanism.
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37 MB
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Pakpahan Interview

Abdul Muyeed Chowdhury

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Andrew Schalkwyk
Name
Abdul Muyeed Chowdhury
Interviewee's Position
Chairman and Director
Interviewee's Organization
BRACNet
Language
English
Nationality of Interviewee
Bangladeshi
Town/City
Dhaka
Country
Date of Interview
Reform Profile
No
Abstract

Abdul Muyeed Chowdhury details his involvement with the Bangladeshi civil service, providing insight on civil service reform within the country. In particular, he describes his role in government attempts to restructure administrative agencies through the creation of review committees. Chowdhury talks about how he became chairman of one such committee, called the Muyeed Committee, which sought to assess departments within the government and produce recommendations for reform. He also elaborates upon his roles in the 1993 Nurunnabi Committee and the 2007 Regulatory Reform Commission. Outlining the importance of land in Bangladesh, Chowdhury talks of the problems created in the country by an archaic land management system and describes his frequent attempts to institute modernization in land administration. He is quick to note, moreover, that regardless of how eager governments may be to set up review commissions at the start of their tenure, they often fail to implement reform recommendations. Indeed, electoral politics and party rivalries often prevent committee reports from being fully carried out. Chowdhury further describes the way civil servants are impacted by the tussles between rival parties as different government administrations succeed each other. This leads to a broader discussion of the major challenges facing the civil service and the need for effective reform. Chowdhury concludes with anecdotes from his time as a Fulbright scholar in America, sharing stories from his life that, in his opinion, serve to exemplify the changes needed in the civil service of Bangladesh.    

Case Study:  Energizing the Civil Service: Managing at the Top 2, Bangladesh, 2006-2011

Profile

 At the time of this interview, Abdul Muyeed Chowdhury was the Chairman and Director of BRACNet, a joint venture ISP, and the owner of Tiger Tours Limited, a tour operating company looking to promote tourism in Bangladesh. A career civil servant for 33 years, Chowdhury joined the Civil Service of Pakistan in 1967 and went on to serve in the Bangladesh civil service upon the country’s independence. He acted as secretary to the Bangladeshi government in various ministries from 1994 to 2000, and served as the managing director and chief executive officer of Biman, the national Bangladesh airline, from 1991 to 1994. Having worked as the director general of the department of land records and surveys in Bangladesh, Chowdhury was also involved in recommending the modernization of land record preparation and management through two reform commissions. In 1989, he was chairman of the Muyeed Committee, and in 2007, as a member of the Regulatory Reforms Commission, he headed a committee that recommended land reform. After his retirement in July 2000, Chowdhury became the executive director of BRAC, a position he retained till 2006. He was also a global councilor for the International Union for the Conservation of Nature from 2004 to 2008. Chowdhury obtained a Bachelor of Arts (Honors) in History in 1964 and a Master of Arts in Modern History from the University of Dhaka in 1965. He also attended the University of Tennessee (Knoxville, USA) for nine months as a Fulbright scholar studying public administration from 1980 to 1981.

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85 MB
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Abdul Muyeed Chowdhury - Full Interview

Richard Panton

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4
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Summer Lopez
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Richard Panton
Interviewee's Position
Deputy Director-General for Training and Development
Interviewee's Organization
Liberia Institute for Public Administration
Language
English
Nationality of Interviewee
Liberian
Town/City
Monrovia
Country
Date of Interview
Reform Profile
No
Abstract

Richard Panton describes the role he played in public sector reform in Liberia. Before the civil war, he explains, civil servants were adequate and well trained. But they began to take jobs in the private sector, non-governmental organizations and the United Nations after the war, leading to a decline in the public sector’s capacity. Also, due to transitional arrangements, recruiters did not consider education and professionalism when selecting public workers. Reform was necessary to resolve capacity issues. The Civil Service Agency was in charge of selection and recruitment, payroll and age structure, and promotion systems. The Liberia Institute of Public Administration designed a curriculum for training existing public workers. Panton was involved in designing and facilitating training programs in records management, project planning and management, human resource management, strategic management, and financial management. According to him, some of the challenges included a shortage of training equipment, budget delays and inadequate specialists in human resource management.  

Profile

At the time of this interview, Richard Panton was the deputy director-general for training and development at the Liberia Institute for Public Administration. He joined LIPA in 1998 as a special assistant to the director-general. He was also a trainer of the African Management Development Institute Network and an instructor of public administration and management at the University of Liberia and United Methodist University. Panton joined the government as a cadet in 1985 in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. He worked in the Office of the Deputy Minister for Administration. He later moved to the Ministry of State for Presidential Affairs. He holds a bachelor’s degree in economics with a minor concentration in political science from the University of Liberia and a master’s in development management from the Ghana Institute of Management and Public Administration.  

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73 MB
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Richard Panton - Full Interview

Michael Kargbo

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Interviewers
Ashley McCants
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Michael Kargbo
Interviewee's Position
Acting Head of Public Administration Department
Interviewee's Organization
Institute for Public Administration and Management
Language
English
Nationality of Interviewee
Sierra Leone
Town/City
Free Town
Country
Date of Interview
Reform Profile
No
Abstract
In this interview, Dr. Michael Kargbo discusses the Sierra Leonean Institute for Public Administration and Management (IPAM) as well as the complementary civil service reforms that are being pursued within the country. He emphasizes the need for improved training, particularly in the field of information technology (IT). Dr. Kargbo explains that IPAM offers such essential training through university degree programs for students as well short-term courses geared towards current civil servants. The content of such programs should be determined from within the country, rather than mandated from donors, Kargbo maintains. He goes on to discuss the problems presented by the rigidly hierarchical civil service structure that is currently in place in Sierra Leone, and the potential merits of a Senior Executive Service, which would open up the application process for top positions and offer increased benefits, while subjecting them to rigorous annual review that could result in their removal from position. 
Profile

At the time of this interview, Dr. Michael Kargbo was the Acting Head of Public Administration Department of IPAM, the Institute for Public Administration and Management in Sierra Leone. Kargbo earned his doctorate in foreign policy from the University of Birmingham, publishing his thesis concerning British foreign policy in Sierra Leone. He has extensive experience as an educator, working in dozens of schools in the United Kingdom and at the University of Birmingham.

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55 MB
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Michael Kargbo - Full Interview

Jay Wysocki

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David Hausman
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Jay Wysocki
Interviewee's Position
Local Governance Adviser
Interviewee's Organization
United Nations Development Programme, Vietnam
Language
English
Nationality of Interviewee
American
Town/City
Hanoi
Country
Date of Interview
Reform Profile
No
Abstract
Jay Wysocki talks about civil service reforms in Vietnam.  The main impetus for the reforms was the Thai Binh riots involving corrupt government officials and land appropriation.  Other factors included the inflow of foreign direct investment that required political and administrative changes, the need for a growing economy to absorb the rising number of people in the job market, and the improvement of public services.  The reforms focused on institutions, performance, staffing and organizational structure.  Wysocki explains the capacity-building programs at the National Academy of Public Administration.  He also discusses decentralization and the privatization or “socialization” of services like education and healthcare.  The reform process was affected by corruption and lack of empirical data, which complicated program evaluations. 
Profile

At the time of this interview, Jay Wysocki was the United Nations Development Programme's local governance adviser in Vietnam. He first came to Vietnam in 1995 to participate in a British project run by Oxfam. He later designed a project to improve the quality of public administration training at the National Academy of Public Administration. He also served as the project’s chief technical adviser.  

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Jay Wysocki Interview

Policy Leaps and Implementation Obstacles: Civil Service Reform in Vietnam, 1998-2009

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David Hausman
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Country of Reform
Abstract

This case study offers an account of civil service reform efforts in Vietnam between 1998 and 2009, which yielded substantial formal policy changes but produced only modest practical changes to Vietnam's public employment system.  Before 1998, the Vietnamese civil service lacked standardized competitive recruitment and promotion procedures, offered salaries that did not cover the cost of living, provided insufficient and often irrelevant training, and included ministries that duplicated functions.  By 2009, the Ministry of Home Affairs had standardized and then devolved recruitment and promotion exams to line ministries and provinces, doubled civil service wages while giving agencies autonomy to raise wages further, expanded the enrollment of the National Academy of Public Administration by a factor of 20, and merged six ministries.  Nonetheless, government and donor officials reported that recruitment continued to be driven often by corruption, that even doubled salaries often did not cover the cost of living, that training was rarely relevant to civil servants' work, and that tasks continued to be duplicated in most of the merged ministries.  In order to concentrate on human resource management reforms, this case study does not consider other aspects of the Public Administration Reform agenda, including, for example, the institution of so-called one-stop shops designed to simplify administrative procedures.  Because public sector reform remained a sensitive topic in Vietnam in 2009, many interviewees asked that their names be withheld.

David Hausman drafted this case study on the basis of interviews conducted in Hanoi, Vietnam, in August and September 2009. 

Associated Interview(s):  Clay Wescott