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Santiago Garces

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Tristan Dreisbach
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Santiago Garces
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Chief Innovation Officer,
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Office of Innovation, South Bend, Indiana
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English
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South Bend, Indiana
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Abstract

In this interview, South Bend, Indiana Chief Innovation Officer Santiago Garces discusses the creation of the innovation and technology unit within South Bend’s city government. Garces recounts the path that took him from Bogota, Colombia to Indiana.  He discusses early projects to identify areas in which government could operate more efficiently and effectively, as well as the evolution of a small innovation office into a full-fledged department. Garces talks about creating a business analytics team, consolidating the city’s information technology (IT) services into one office, and making IT more efficient by outsourcing some services and moving to the cloud. He also explains how his team managed resistance to change and shares some lessons learned for other municipalities interested in creating innovation units.

Santiago Garces video clips: 

Business Mapping 

 

The Hardest Parts of the Exercise

 

 

 

Profile

Santiago “Santi” Garces was born and raised in Colombia. In 2006, he came to the United States to attend at the University of Notre Dame, where he studied electrical engineering and political science. He earned his undergraduate degree in 2011 and stayed at Notre Dame for a one-year master’s program in entrepreneurship in science, engineering, and technology. After graduating, he and a group of classmates worked with civic and business leaders in South Bend to start a nonprofit organization called EnFocus, which funded fellowships allowing young graduates to work on innovation projects in South Bend. Garces spent part of his fellowship working with city government. In August 2013, South Bend mayor Pete Buttigieg offered him a job as innovation and performance manager. In January 2015, he became the city’s first chief innovation officer. 

Peter Buttigieg

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Tristan Dreisbach
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Peter Buttigieg
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Mayor, South Bend
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English
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South Bend, Indiana
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Yes
Abstract

In this interview, South Bend, Indiana, mayor Peter Buttigieg discusses how his administration used innovation and technology to improve municipal government. He explains how his background in consulting informed his use of data to make government more effective and speaks about how civic innovation can help solve the toughest problems his community faces in the face of serious financial constraints, including a state-wide property tax cap. He hired Santiago Garces, a young Notre Dame graduate, to create an innovation office that helped implement the mayor’s biggest policy priorities, including dealing with the city’s many vacant and abandoned properties. He lauds the performance of the city’s business analysts, who worked with city departments to identify problems in their business processes and help them become more efficient and effective. Buttigieg also talks about dealing with internal resistance to new policies. He advises other cities to build partnerships with external actors that can help them harness data and innovation and discusses the importance of government employees having a results mentality, as opposed to a compliance mentality.

Profile

Peter Buttigieg was born in South Bend in 1982, the son of Notre Dame professors. In 2000 he enrolled at Harvard University, where he studied philosophy and political science. After graduating in 2004, he worked on the presidential campaign of Democrat John Kerry and for the Cohen Group, a business advisory firm. He then received a Rhodes Scholarship to study philosophy, politics, and economics at the University of Oxford, where he graduated in 2007. He returned to the United States to work at the Chicago office of McKinsey & Co., the global management consulting firm, where he worked on energy and grocery pricing. He left McKinsey in 2010 to campaign full-time for Indiana state treasurer. He was the Democratic Party’s nominee, but lost the general election to his Republican challenger by a large margin. The next year, he entered a crowded field to replace South Bend’s outgoing Democratic mayor. He won the election in November 2011 and took office in 2012 at age 30, at the time the youngest mayor of any city with a population over 100,000. He won reelection in 2015 with more than 80% of the vote. In 2017, he ran for chair of the Democratic National Committee, the national governing body of the Democratic Party. He withdrew prior to the final vote, but the race elevated his national profile and encouraged media speculation that he might run for president.

John Pollock

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Gabriel Kuris
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John Pollock
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Coordinator, Heirs Property Retention Coalition
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Montgomery, Alabama
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No
Abstract

In this interview, John Pollock talks about the motivation behind founding the Heirs’ Property Retention Coalition (HPRC), a network dedicated to preventing the forced sale of ancestral property. He discusses his role in drafting the Uniform Partition of Heirs Property Act (Uniform Act), which aims to preserve family wealth. Pollock describes how the Uniform Law Commission, the chief authority on model state laws, accepted this proposed act, as well as the drafting process after the commission’s acceptance. He talks about the difficulty negotiating with opposition in the commission and various states that have adopted the Uniform Act. Pollock also talks about the links between urban blight and heirs’ property issues and the use of other reforms, including heirship affidavits, to prove ownership. He describes myths surrounding heirs’ property and the issues associated with dividing property between heirs. Lastly, Pollock talks about the difficulties associated with monitoring the success of the Uniform Act and the adverse effects of forced sale. 

Profile

At the time of this interview, John Pollock was the Coordinator of the Heirs Property Retention Coalition, which works to preserve the ancestral property of low-income families across the country.  Apart from his heirs property work, which he does pro bono on the side, he was a staff attorney for the Public Justice Center, where he served as Coordinator of the National Coalition for a Civil Right to Counsel, which works to ensure the right to counsel for low-income individuals in civil cases implicating basic human needs. Pollock earned his law degree from Northeastern University School of Law, in Boston, Massachusetts.

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John Pollock Interview

Christy Kane

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Gabriel Kuris
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Christy Kane
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Executive Director
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Louisiana Appleseed
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English
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New Orleans, Louisiana
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No
Abstract

In this interview, Christy Kane talks about the creation of Louisiana Appleseed, an advocacy organization that works to solve societal problems by altering public policy. She was initially an attorney at Adams and Reese LLP, a law firm that incubated Louisiana Appleseed, and soon became the organization’s executive director. Kane discusses Louisiana Appleseed’s efforts to reform property and heirship laws after natural disasters, so that people could get access to funding to repair their homes. She talks about the process of proposing changes to the law, negotiating, and compromising with opposition, as well as the features of Louisiana's civil law system. Kane also discusses Louisiana Appleseed’s collaboration with Appleseed centers in other states to promote disaster recovery on the U.S. Gulf Coast. Lastly, she talks about working with local organizations to make sure that any change in legislation actually benefits the people it was meant to help.

 

Profile

At the time of this interview, Christy Kane was Louisiana Appleseed’s first executive director. She began working with Louisiana Appleseed in 2007. Kane left her position as a class-action litigator at Adams and Reese LLP, a firm in New Orleans, in 2009 to work with Louisiana Appleseed full time. She received her law degree from George Washington University in Washington, D.C.

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Christy Kane Full Interview

Thuli Madonsela

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Tristan Dreisbach
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Thuli Madonsela
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Former Public Protector, South Africa
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English
Town/City
Cambridge, Mass
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No
Abstract

In this interview, Thulisile Madonsela talks about how she transformed the office of public protector into a powerful anti-corruption agency. After a career working in the trade union movement and the Department of Justice, Madonsela became South Africa’s public protector in 2009. The office, established by the constitution in 1995, had a mandate to investigate government misconduct but had primarily worked on administrative justice cases. Faced with an influx of corruption complaints when she took office, Madonsela began to reorganize the agency to better handle that caseload. She identified three main problems she needed to solve: assigning more investigators to corruption cases, creating a triage function to sort through a growing number of complaints, and increasing impact at the level of local government. To achieve these goals, she had to change the culture and performance expectations within the office and secure more financial resources during a difficult period for South Africa’s economy. Madonsela reorganized the office to create an anti-corruption unit, developed triaging criteria, decentralized some functions to provincial offices, created standard operating procedures for investigators, revamped the staff training program, and recruited auditors and forensic investigators. As the reports she released gained attention and brought to light instances of high-level corruption, resistance to her work grew. Madonsela had to fend off accusations and threats and found it increasingly difficult to get resources from parliament. She took care to avoid attacking individuals in the media, to present the investigations as statements of fact, and to link acts of financial misconduct to the suffering of poor South Africans. A 2015 Supreme Court of Appeal ruling further empowered the public protector by declaring that agencies could not ignore the office’s recommendations for remedial action. 

Profile

Thulisile Madonsela received her law degree from the University of the Witwatersrand in 1990 and began her career in the trade union movement. She then moved to the Department of Justice, where she participated in the strategic planning process to transform the justice system in post-apartheid South Africa. Madonsela also was involved in the constitutional dialogue during the 1990s. In 2006, after several years in the private sector, she rejoined the Department of Justice as a law commissioner. In 2009, after a multi-party parliamentary committee backed her nomination, President Jacob Zuma appointed Madonsela public protector. She served a seven-year term in the office. In 2016, she began a fellowship at Harvard University’s Advanced Leadership Initiative.

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Thuli Madonsela Full Interview

Stefano Pagiola

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Blair Cameron
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Stefano Pagiola
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English
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World Bank
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Washington, DC
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No
Abstract

In this interview, World Bank environmental economist Stefano Pagiola discusses his role in the development of payment for environmental services (PES) programs in Costa Rica and Mexico. He begins by discussing the World Bank's role in improving payment and service targeting in Mexican and Costa Rican PES programs based on environmental/biodiversity and cost-effectiveness economic analyses. He then describes technical challenges faced in the implementation of Costa Rica's PES program, and similar challenges due to up-scaling the program for Mexico. Next, Pagiola outlines the political challenges PES faced in both countries and how the programs were re-shaped to better attract political support. Finally, he discusses difficulties in formulating an impact evaluation for these PES programs, and how they have been received in implementing countries in Latin America. 

Profile

At the time of this interview, Stefano Pagiola was a Senior Environmental Economist for Latin America and the Caribbean at the World Bank. Since the 1990s, he has worked as a consultant on a variety of World Bank-funded projects in environmental economics across the region, including as an advisor on the Payments for Environmental Services programs pioneered in Costa Rica and Mexico. He has also worked on a number of other environmental economics projects ranging from market-based conservation solutions to economic valuations of ecosystem services. He holds a BA from Princeton, and an MA and PhD from Stanford. 

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Stefano Pagiola Interview

Dan Hymowitz

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Jennifer Widner and David Paterson
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Dan Hymowitz
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Acting Director of Development and External Relations
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Tony Blair Africa Governance Initiative
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English
Town/City
Princeton, New Jersey
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No
Abstract

In this interview, Dan Hymowitz describes the successes and challenges of the Ebola response in Liberia from November 2014 through March 2015. He details the structure of the National Incident Management System in Liberia that responded to Ebola and how the response in greater Monrovia mimicked the national response. He describes the importance of decentralizing the response in greater Monrovia and how methods changed as the number of new cases decreased. He emphasizes the importance of well-defined roles for various actors within the response and details the challenges of government collaboration with international organizations. He also discusses the challenges of the “last mile” of the response and how creativity and flexibility were key at this stage.

Profile

At the time of the interview, Dan Hymowitz was the Acting Director of Development and External Relations for the Tony Blair Africa Governance Initiative (AGI). During the West Africa Ebola outbreak in 2014, he took leave from his position as a Senior Advisor at AGI to serve as an Ebola Advisor to the Government of Liberia. In this capacity, he was the chief adviser to the head of the task force that managed the Ebola response in greater Monrovia.

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Dan Hymowitz Interview

Raphael Frankfurter

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Jennifer Widner & David Paterson
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Raphael Frankfurter
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Former Director of Wellbody Alliance
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English
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Princeton, New Jersey
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Reform Profile
No
Abstract

In this interview, Raphael Frankfurter describes overseeing the Wellbody Alliance clinic’s response to the Ebola outbreak in Kono, Sierra Leone. He recounts succeeding where other organizations failed by institutionalizing empathy, tightening protective protocol for health workers, and coordinating with partners to streamline treatment. In particular, Frankfurter attributes Sierra Leoneans’ exceptional degree of cooperation with Wellbody to the pairing of each patient with a community health worker. He explains how Wellbody benefited from a mostly local staff, with a structure that promoted vital conversations among community health workers, supervisors, and managers. He notes that discussions with local leaders, residents, and traditional healers helped the organization identify and serve the area’s needs. Based on various players’ achievements and setbacks in the field, Frankfurter concludes that to effectively deliver care, healthcare providers should respect patients as humans from the beginning.

Profile

At the time of this interview, Raphael Frankfurter was an MD/PhD student at the University of California, San Francisco and Berkeley. He previously served as the Executive Director of Wellbody Alliance from 2013 to 2015. He led the organization’s community-focused response to the Ebola outbreak by operating a medical center in Kono, Sierra Leone and a network of care centers throughout the country. Frankfurter conducted ethnographic research in Kono during his undergraduate career at Princeton University, where he studied anthropology as well as global health and health policy.

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Raphael Frankfurter Interview

Sri Mulyani Indrawati

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Jennifer Widner and Gabriel Kuris
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Sri Mulyani Indrawati
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Managing Director, World Bank
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English
Town/City
Washington, DC
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No
Abstract

As a follow up to her 2009 interview, Sri Mulyani Indrawati revisits her years as Indonesia’s minister of finance to discuss the challenges of building her economic reform team and institutionalizing performance management at the ministry.  She describes how she worked closely with key members of the KPK (Corruption Eradication Commission) to cultivate motivation and teamwork among government employees.  With the support of her reform team, she established institutional mechanisms to reduce corruption and raise the credibility of the government.  And although Indonesia’s bureaucracy proved to challenge the reform team at times, she explains how performance indicators and standard operating procedures were instrumental to identify and overcome weaknesses in the Ministry of Finance.  In conclusion, Sri Mulyani reflects on the more personal attributes required to move sustainable reform forward: a strong vision along with the trust and commitment of her fellow reformers.   She describes the practice of public asset disclosure as one of the most sustainable reforms her team implemented at the ministry. 

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At the time of this interview, Sri Mulyani Indrawati was managing director at the World Bank.  She has extensive experience in financial reforms to reduce corruption and strengthen economic growth.

Nadim Matta

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Jennifer Widner
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Nadim Matta
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President
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Rapid Results Institute
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English
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Washington, DC
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No
Abstract

In this interview, Nadim Matta explains the philosophy and logistics of the Rapid Results Initiatives (RRIs). He describes how these highly choreographed 100-day projects, once introduced into large-scale programs, forge ownership and accountability for results at the local level. Furthermore, he discusses the creation of the RRIs and his projects with the World Bank. He talks about instances of RRI implementation in Nicaragua, Madagascar and Eritrea, describing the different forms of project management, leadership support and civil service rules. Finally, he notes contexts in which RRIs are more likely to succeed and potential roadblocks to results. 

Case Studies:  Building Capacity, Changing Norms: Rapid Results in Madagascar, 2005-2009Enhancing Capacity, Changing Behaviors: Rapid Results in Gashaki, Rwanda, 2008, and Building A Culture Of Results: Institutionalizing Rapid Results Initiatives In Kenya, 2005-2009

Profile

At the time of this interview, Nadim Matta was the President and founding board member of the Rapid Results Institute. Born and raised in Lebanon, he received a degree in electrical engineering from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, a Master’s Degree in Public Health from the American University of Beirut and an MBA from the Yale School of Management. He worked at the U.S. Agency of International Development in Beirut where he oversaw relief and rehabilitations programs during the Lebanese civil war. He also worked for Save the Children Federation where he led the implementation of food assistance programs for displaced families in Lebanon. In 1990, he joined Schaffer Consulting and became a managing partner of the firm in 2009. In 2012 he was named as one of the top 100 Global Thinkers by the Foreign Policy Magazine and was selected as a Yale School of Management Donaldson Fellow for 2012 and 2013.