Nepal

Deependra Bickram Thapa

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Andrew Schalkwyk
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Deependra Bickram Thapa
Interviewee's Position
Secretary of Education
Interviewee's Organization
Ministry of Education and Sport, Nepal
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English
Nationality of Interviewee
Nepali
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Ministry of Education and Sport
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Kathmandu
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No
Abstract
Deependra Thapa describes the successes and failures of civil service reform efforts in Nepal before, during and after civil conflict. He reports successes in downsizing the bureaucracy and combating corruption. A Web-based personnel information system was installed. However, its use was inhibited by the resistance to change within the bureaucracy, which persisted in doing most transactions on paper. Because of a lack of support from top leadership, installation of a performance management system, with pay and promotion dependent upon outputs, was stymied for similar reasons. When Parliament was suspended during the civil conflict, training for parliamentarians and senior civil servants and officials also came to a halt. Thapa expresses concern that tensions under the coalition government at the time of the interview meant that little attention and few resources would be paid to achieve the ambitious civil service reform goals the government originally set for itself in 1999.
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At the time of this interview, Deependra Thapa was Nepal's secretary of education, a position he had held for less than a year. Earlier, he was secretary of the Ministry of General Administration, where he had served for two years as national program officer in charge of the civil service reform program.  Since entering the civil service in 1997, he also served in the ministries of tourism, environment, operations, transportation and labor and in the office of the prime minister.

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Deepndra Thapa Interview

Krishna Devkota

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Andrew Schalkwyk
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Krishna Devkota
Interviewee's Position
Training Adviser, Revenue Administration Report Project
Interviewee's Organization
Danish International Development Agency
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English
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Nepali
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Kathmandu
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No
Abstract

Krishna Devkota provides a history of numerous attempts to reform Nepal’s civil service since the 1950s. All of them, including the most recent donor-instigated initiative, have either not been implemented, or only partially implemented. As a contracted consultant to international donors funding the most recent effort, Devkota describes both the aim and design of the reform effort and his opinion about why implementation of most of the reform efforts failed.  He cites political and civil conflict and tensions in the country, a lack of political will or commitment to the reforms by top leaders, the short time horizons of donors, corruption that diverted donor funds from their intended use and resistance to change by civil servants because they did not sense any possibility for reward or promotion.    

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At the time of this interview, Krishna Devkota was training adviser to the Danish International Development Agency’s Revenue Administration Report Project. While he pursued his university training in the early 1970s, he worked at the Agricultural Project Services Center, a Nepali autonomous semi-government consulting organization. In 2000, he became a freelance consultant to international donor organizations in Nepal, including the United Kingdom’s Department for International Development, the Asian Development Bank, the U.N.’s Food and Agricultural Organization and the U.N. Development Programme.
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Krishna Devkota Interview

Dwarika Dhungel

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Andrew Schalkwyk
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Dwarika Dhungel
Interviewee's Position
Senior Researcher
Interviewee's Organization
Institute for Integrated Development Studies
Language
English
Nationality of Interviewee
Nepali
Town/City
Kathmandu
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Date of Interview
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No
Abstract

Dwarika Dhungel describes Nepal’s experience with civil service reform as it transitioned from a unitary state ruled by a monarchy to a multi-party parliamentary state evolving toward a decentralized federal system. At the start of this transition, an Administrative Reforms Commission chaired by the prime minister was established. It prepared 116 recommendations to right-size and rationalize the civil service and the organization and functions of government. However, while the commission did its work a large number of civil servants were fired, throwing the reform process into turmoil and the commission chairman resigned. Officials from the political parties then began to politicize the civil service, removing long-time employees and elevating party supporters. At the time of the interview, the Asian Development Bank pressed for some reform and anti-corruption efforts and a new “good governance” law had been enacted, but whether it would be implemented was unknown.  

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At the time of this interview, Dwarika Dhungel was a senior researcher at the Institute for Integrated Development Studies in Kathmandu, Nepal. He served as Head of the Institute from October 2000 to April 2006. He served in the Nepal Administrative Service (NAS) starting in the 1970s rising from junior officer to the rank of Permanent Secretary. In 1991, he sat on the Administrative Reforms Commission to reorganize Nepal’s civil service. Subsequently he served as secretary to the Administrative Reforms Monitoring Committee. He left the NAS in 1998 and served briefly as a consultant to Transparency International and for the Centre for Democracy and Good Governance (CSDG). In 1999, he was a visiting scholar at Indiana University in Bloomington, Indiana, USA.
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Bhojraj Pokharel

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Rushda Majeed
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Bhojraj Pokharel
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Chief Elections Commissioner
Interviewee's Organization
Election Commission of Nepal
Language
English
Nationality of Interviewee
Nepal
Town/City
Kathmandu
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No
Abstract

Bhojraj Pokharel, who served as Chief Election Commissioner of the Election Commission of Nepal between 2006 and 2008, speaks about his experiences in developing procedures for, and overseeing the conduct of, the historic 2008 national elections. Pokharel, who had a long career in public service in Nepal prior to being appointed Chief Election Commissioner, explains in this interview that at the time of his appointment, “there was…nothing in place technically, legally or conceptually.” Only the most basic parameters as to how the elections were to be conducted were set forth in Nepal’s governing constitution; every other detail was left to Pokharel, and Nepal’s government, to resolve. At the time of Pokharel’s appointment, the constitutionally-mandated election day was only months away and the challenges were enormous. For example,  before any planning could occur, an interim parliament had to pass laws giving basic guidance as to election procedures. Yet the political leaders were unable to reach timely agreements on important points in the legislation. Also immediate, and critical, was the need to bring the Maoists, who had been actively involved in civil strife for the previous ten years and who had never before been involved in conventional politics, into the election process. Pokharel managed to persuade the Maoists to participate fully in the election process, and to stay involved through a host of challenges that, at many points, threatened to make any sort of representative election impossible. Next, the methodology of preparing voter lists had to be decided upon, and eligibility determined. Staff willing to work in remote, strife-torn areas had to be found and trained, and their security assured. Ballot forms and voter education materials had to be developed and printed. Once printed, these materials had to be disseminated, so reliable means of transporting them to, and ensuring their integrity in, remote, strife-torn areas and areas that lacked electricity, transport, and other essentials had to be arranged. Pokharel describes his frustrations as these challenges prevented the conduct of the election on the first, constitutionally-mandated date in June 2007, and as still more challenges forced another postponement of the rescheduled date in November of that year. At one point, he recalls, he actually prepared his resignation, though ultimately he chose to withdraw it. Finally, he describes his pride, and the pride of the Nepalese people, as the election ultimately occurs in 2008, in an atmosphere largely free of violence and other disruptions.

Case Study: Managing the Political and Practical: Nepal's Constituent Assembly Elections, 2006-2008

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Bhojraj Pokharel was the Chief Election Commissioner of the Election Commission of Nepal between 2006 and 2008. In this capacity, he developed procedures for, and oversaw the conduct of, the historic 2008 elections for the national Constituent Assembly. Prior to becoming Chief Election Commissioner, he held various government posts including at Nepal’s ministries of health, home affairs and local government. After the votes were counted, Pokharel resigned his position and pursued graduate study at the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University. In 2010, the Secretary-General of the United Nations appointed Pokharel to a panel charged with monitoring self-determination referenda for Southern Sudan and the Abyei area, making Pokharel the first Nepali to hold such a high ranking position for the United Nations.

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Ram Prasad Ghimire

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Rushda Majeed
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Ram Prasad Ghimire
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Under Secretary
Interviewee's Organization
Ministry of General Administration
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English
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Kathmandu
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No
Abstract
Mr. Ram Prasad Ghimire draws on his decades of experience working within the Ministry of General Administration (MOGA), which is responsible for managing and reforming the civil service. Additionally, it oversees the implementation of the Governance Reform Program (GRP). He discusses the history of reforms, which ultimately culminates in the GRP. Ghimire reviews the weaknesses of the GRP as well as resulting challenges. Specifically he explains that the GRP was crippled by extensive externally-driven aid conditions that were often not established in response to baseline data, socio-cultural realities, nor existing hierarchies of command. Additionally, Ghimire goes into detail over the various information systems MOGA has initiated to improve coordination across ministries and better track the size and activities of ministries. Two such systems are the Personnel Information System and Teacher-Partner Information Systems.  Finally, Ghimire emphasizes the importance of securing the commitment of high-level authorities to reform for ensuring high-quality implementation. 
Profile

Mr. Ram Prasad Ghimire was in charge of the Organization and Development Section of the Ministry of General Administration (MOGA). He began his career in the Nepalese Civil Service in 1995 as a finance officer. He later served on the Ministry of Tourism and Civil Aviation, National Planning Commission, and was responsible for one of Nepal’s academies of management. 

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Neel Kantha Uprety

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Varanya Chaubey
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Neel Kantha Uprety
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Commissioner
Interviewee's Organization
Election Commission of Nepal
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English
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Nepalese
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Neel Kantha Uprety discusses his role at the Election Commission of Nepal and the changes that took place since 1990 through its role as a constitutionally appointed independent body. He details the changes and challenges encountered in voter registration methods, voter education, the type of electoral system used, and the creation of the election management body through legislation and the constitution. He also talks about the methods adopted to build trust among the people and the need to have open consultations between political parties through formal and informal meetings. He describes how the commission became more transparent over the years with increasing interaction with civil society through regular meetings, and grassroots level projects. Uprety details the election process in Nepal from the commission’s perspective in terms of scaling up staff, training, use of ballot boxes, the introduction of electronic voting, and procurement. He offers insights into common problems encountered on election day, such as voter identification and the use of identification cards, and discusses how to overcome them.
 
Profile

At the time of this interview, Neel Kantha Uprety was commissioner at the Election Commission of Nepal. He became involved in electoral work in Nepal in the early 1990s. He also worked for the United Nations as a senior election coordinator in Afghanistan and as an election observer in Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Pakistan. He earned a master's degree in economics and public administration in Nepal, and a post-graduate diploma and master's degree in computer science in the U.K.

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