Georgia

Giorgi Vashadze

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Andrew Schalkwyk
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Giorgi Vashadze
Interviewee's Position
Chairman
Interviewee's Organization
Deputy Minister of Justice; Head of Civil Registry Agency
Language
English
Nationality of Interviewee
Georgian
Town/City
Tbilisi
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No
Abstract
Giorgi Vashadze,  the Deputy Minister of Justice; Head of the Civil Registry Agency in Georgia, an independent one-stop agency created in 2005 under the Ministry of Justice, discusses the agency's responsibility for issuing citizen identifications, voter registrations, passports, marriage licenses and divorce papers, name changes, and birth and death certificates.  The agency is partially supported by the fees it collects from citizens applying for papers.  The goal is to make it entirely self-supporting financially in the near future.  He describes how the Civil Service Registry was established to eliminate a predecessor process that was highly corrupt and paper-based, and he notes that the process has been computerized and almost all corruption eliminated from the system. The objective in creating the registry was to create a one-stop process for all important papers needed by citizens and to establish a system so that the government knew who was in the country. The system is linked to the process for driver’s licenses and to the Central Electoral Commission. The registry has helped other ministries eliminate corruption by providing software and links to a central information system.
 
Profile
At the time of this interview, Giorgi Vashadze was chairman of the Civil Registry Agency of the Ministry of Justice of Georgia.  He began serving in the organization in 2005 as head of one of the local territorial offices in Tbilisi.  In August 2005 he was promoted to deputy chairman of the agency, and he was named agency head in 2006.
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Giorgi Vashadze Interview

Kakha Bendukidze

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Andrew Schalkwyk
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Kakha Bendukidze
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Faculty
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Free University, Tbilisi
Language
English
Nationality of Interviewee
Georgia
Town/City
Tbilisi
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No
Abstract

Kakha Bendukidze outlines his experiences and personal views about downsizing Georgia’s civil service and reducing the number of government agencies, functions and employees. He argues that the traditional model of civil service promotion and tenure is not appropriate in the fluid political and economic context of Georgia. He suggests that reforms cannot be sequenced formally. Rather, the opportunities for reform fluctuate with political circumstances and must be seized when they present themselves.  He explains how budget reforms were used as instruments to reduce the size of the civil service and the functions of Georgia’s government.    

Case Study:  Delivering on the Hope of the Rose Revolution: Public Sector Reform in Georgia, 2004-2009

Profile

At the time of this interview, Kakha Bendukidze had returned to the faculty of the Free University in Tbilisi (February 2009) after serving four years and nine months in the government of Georgia, most recently as head of the state Chancellery.  Before assuming that position in February 2008, he served as minister for reforms coordination and minister of economic development in 2004-2005.

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Kakha Bendukidze - Full Interview

Jaba Ebanoidze

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Andrew Schalkwyk
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Jaba Ebanoidze
Interviewee's Position
Deputy Minister of Justice
Interviewee's Organization
Republic of Georgia
Language
English
Nationality of Interviewee
Georgia
Place (Building/Street)
Ministry of Justice
Town/City
Tbilisi
Country
Date of Interview
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No
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Jaba Ebanoidze talks about the reform of Georgia's Public Registry office, an agency that records all information associated with property ownership in the country. Under his tenure, the office streamlined various processes and undertook the computerization of all records and applications. This has allowed citizens to submit applications through the Internet and track the progress of their applications. Ebanoidze hired top Georgian programmers to develop a Georgia-specific software system.  He looked at other countries in Europe, drawing inspiration from Estonia and taking lessons from places where he felt things didn’t work so well. He raised salaries of his key staff so as not to lose them to the private sector, while at the same time he worked on institutionalizing procedures so they were not person-specific. He also discusses the challenges and successes in extending the new system to rural and outlying areas. Ebanoidze talks about training a core group of people to work with new systems, and then unrolling it slowly. He was able to minimize expenses by having a training team go from region to region rather than trying to train all regions simultaneously. He also talks about successful attempts to combat corruption by minimizing citizen-staff interaction, and through the more direct means of firing staff resistant to increased transparency.

Case Study:  Rejuvenating the Public Registry: Republic of Georgia, 2006-2008

Profile

At the time of this interview, Jaba Ebanoidze was the deputy minister of justice in Georgia. He was educated at Tbilisi Topographic Technical College and Georgian Technical University, earning a bachelor’s degree in topography and a separate bachelor’s degree in engineering geodesy. He was a co-founder of the Association for the Protection of Landowners Rights, an organization that “supports the orderly and transparent development of Georgian land and property markets.” He served as director of the association from 1999 to 2005 and as senior policy adviser from 2005 to 2006. In 2006 he was appointed chairman of the National Agency of Public Registry, where he served for three years before being appointed deputy minister of justice.

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Jaba Ebanoidze-Full Interview

Zurab Nogaideli

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Andrew Schalkwyk
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Zurab Nogaideli
Interviewee's Position
Former Prime Minister
Interviewee's Organization
Republic of Georgia
Language
English
Nationality of Interviewee
Georgia
Town/City
Tbilisi
Country
Date of Interview
Reform Profile
Yes
Abstract

Zurab Nogaideli, who was prime minister of Georgia from 2005 to 2007, details the country's experience of reform generally and civil service reform in particular.  He discusses the challenges that confronted the country after the Rose Revolution in 2003, and talks about efforts made to downsize the civil service and reduce corruption.  He emphasizes that simpler systems work better in developing countries, and that fewer people with better training and higher pay do a better job than a greater number of individuals who are poorly paid and poorly trained.  He favors simple regulations that do not foster interaction between mid-level bureaucrats and citizens, believing that frequent interaction encourages corruption.  Nogaideli believes that Georgia had four years of excellent reform from 2003 to 2007, but that gradually some successes were eroded.  He maintains this demonstrates the importance of continuing on a strong reform course even after early achievements.  He offers reasons for what he perceives as backsliding on reforms, and provides advice for countries that want to move forward.

Case Study:  Delivering on the Hope of the Rose Revolution: Public Sector Reform in Georgia, 2004-2009

Profile

Zurab Nogaideli was born in Georgia and educated at Moscow State University.  He was a deputy in Georgia's Parliament in 1992 and chaired the Parliamentary Committee on Environment Protection and Natural Resources from 1992 to 1995.  He was a member of Parliament from 1995 to 1999 and 1999 to 2000, and he chaired the Parliamentary Tax and Income Committee.  He joined the government of Eduard Shevardnadze as minister of finance in May 2000.  After leaving government work in 2002, he returned after Shevardnadze was ousted in the Rose Revolution of November 2003.  He was reappointed to his former post as minister of finance in February 2004 in the government of Prime Minister Zurab Zhvania.  Nogaideli served as prime minister from 2005 to 2007, when he resigned from government due to health reasons.
 

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Zurab Nogaideli- Full Interview

Kartlos Kipiani

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Andrew Schalkwyk
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Kartlos Kipiani
Interviewee's Position
Chief of Staff
Interviewee's Organization
Constitutional Court of Georgia
Language
English
Nationality of Interviewee
Georgian
Town/City
Tbilisi
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No
Abstract
Kartlos Kipiani, chief of staff of the Constitutional Court of Georgia at the time of the interview, discusses his time as head of the Public Service Bureau of Georgia and the efforts he was involved in to implement civil service reform projects.  The projects, which were wide-ranging, included efforts to improve technical skills of civil servants and to create a single information-management system across the ministries.  Kipiani also explains the role donors such as the World Bank played in setting the reform agenda.  He discusses the difficulty of dealing with poorly defined and sometimes overlapping government bureaucracies.  He touches on the question of decentralized versus centralized public-administration reform, and he explains why he thinks centralization of reform concepts is important.  He also discusses the difficulties he ran into with attempts to create one codification of job descriptions across all ministries.
 
Profile

At the time of this interview, Kartlos Kipiani was the chief of staff of the Constitutional Court of Georgia, a position he held from 2006 until March 2010.  In April 2010 he became deputy head of the Government Chancellery.  He previously served as secretary of the Public Service Council and acting head of the Public Service Bureau.  Kipiani also headed the Division for Civil Service Reform under the previous government in 2000.  He worked on various programs as a coordinator for the United Nations Development Programme.  He first began working for the government in the Office of State Chancellery in 1995.  Kipiani earned a master's degree in public policy from Japan’s National Graduate Institute for Public Policy Studies at Saitama University in 2003.

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Karlos Kipiani Interview

Ekaterine Tkeshelashvili

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Matthew Devlin
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Ekaterine Tkeshelashvili
Interviewee's Position
International Security Adviser
Interviewee's Organization
National Security Council, Republic of Georgia
Language
English
Nationality of Interviewee
Georgian
Town/City
Tbilisi
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Date of Interview
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No
Abstract
Eka Tkeshelashvili describes police reforms in Georgia. Shortly after it assumed power, the reform government fired the entire traffic police force because of rampant corruption.  Few serious consequences flowed from this decision, though some of those discharged may have joined criminal groups.  She says that the high level of organized crime and paramilitary activity that afflicted Georgia in the early 1990s was more or less under control. In rebuilding the police force, she says, the government recruited candidates with the proper credentials and training, and pay levels were increased significantly. The Police Academy was equipped with more up-to-date facilities and curricula. Prison facilities were reformed and human rights for prisoners gained improved protection.  Police management was decentralized.  External oversight of police activity and of the prisons was improved, and the public was given new ways to report and comment on police performance.
 
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At the time of this interview, Eka Tkeshelashvili was the international security adviser to Georgia's National Security Council. For the last half of 2008, she served as Georgia’s foreign minister. Earlier that year, she was prosecutor general. In 2006 and 2007, she headed the Tbilisi Court of Appeals.  In 2007, she was minister of justice. She first joined the government in 2005 and served as deputy minister of interior. She graduated from the Faculty of International Law and International Relations at Tbilisi State University in 1999.
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Eka Tkeshelashvili Interview